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#1216 User is offline   digger 

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 12:17 AM

View Postphildunford, on 05 December 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

Have not looked into this fully, but my RHS magazine pointed out that Dithane fungacide has been made illegal & that the recomended replacement is based on Copper Oxychloride.

Don't know if it's too diluted or adulterated, but might be worth a look...


Never had you pinned as green fingered Phil.

Is that there CuOCl any good for them blues? I have only used it as a catalyst so far (very good). I may give it a whirl when I get a chance.
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Posted 06 December 2010 - 09:16 AM

Never had you pinned as green fingered Phil.

Not even scratched the surface yet! :rolleyes:

Is that there CuOCl any good for them blues? I have only used it as a catalyst so far (very good). I may give it a whirl when I get a chance.

That was what I was wondering - will get some and give it a try...
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Posted 06 December 2010 - 09:47 AM

View Postphildunford, on 06 December 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:

Never had you pinned as green fingered Phil.
That was what I was wondering - will get some and give it a try...


I will send you a small sample of the pure stuff for you to try in the next day or two so you can do a few experiments for us to review.
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Posted 06 December 2010 - 08:50 PM

I had to know.

I did a quick test with the following formula

KClO3 55
CuCl2• 3Cu(OH)2 25
Parlon 8
Red gum 7
SGRS 4

What can I say a very very impressive blue. A bit slow, but a good starting point.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:01 AM

View Postdigger, on 06 December 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

I had to know.

I did a quick test with the following formula

KClO3 55
CuCl2• 3Cu(OH)2 25
Parlon 8
Red gum 7
SGRS 4

What can I say a very very impressive blue. A bit slow, but a good starting point.


Interesting - have heard good things about copper oxychloride blues...
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:07 AM

View Postdigger, on 06 December 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

What can I say a very very impressive blue. A bit slow, but a good starting point.


Yes, interesting. How would you say it compares to your Copper Benzoate blues in terms of colour and flame envelope?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 05:27 PM

View PostBrightStar, on 07 December 2010 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes, interesting. How would you say it compares to your Copper Benzoate blues in terms of colour and flame envelope?


I only did a couple 2.5 gram 6mm by 2" lances. So it is a bit early to say, but the colour seemed to better even though I was comparing from memory.

I will make a couple of grams of stars up at the weekend as a test if I can feel my fingers in the workshop.

I will post the results on the star formula thread.

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 02:03 PM

There's been some recent news regarding Antimony that could affect some of you. Basically supply is going to become more difficult.

http://www.ft.com/cm...l#axzz1J81t2Lkt

There's a nice price graph with time, but I'm 'Not allowed to use that image extension on this board', so you'll have to click the link:

http://www.minormeta...&site=4&lang=EN



On the plus side though, Bismuth does appear to finally be stabilising.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 11:19 PM

Yep I noticed it starting to rise last year, so I bought a tonne of it.

It has truly gone bonkers this year.
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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:03 PM

Just a follow up point on the Antimony situation,

http://www.bgs.ac.uk...s/riskList.html


It's got the top spot for minerals most at risk from supply problems.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:42 PM

Hi, i am buying potassium perchlorate in Lithuania for 8 GBP per kg and it is to expensive to me. Perhaps in UK it is cheaper? :)
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:56 AM

View Postperchlorate, on 17 October 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

Hi, i am buying potassium perchlorate in Lithuania for 8 GBP per kg and it is to expensive to me. Perhaps in UK it is cheaper? :)


That sounds pretty cheap although shipping must have cost a few quid.
Best I have found in the UK is £10/KG plus postage www.oliverbrown.co.uk not bought any yet but looks pretty cheap.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 07:33 AM

In eastern Europe more chems are available and usually at better prices than in western Europe. Shipping and customs and duties may make cross border purchase more difficult/expensive.

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