15 replies to this topic

[The_Djinn]

As you almost point out, the professional industry police themselves with regards to the law and it was just over a week ago that I had the experience of telling a client that i had to pull the show due to the time.. he had been warned several times before the 11 curfew. (show did go ahead due to locality of function as it fell into an area of exclusion withing the constraints of the law)

The police have a hard time tracking down offenders unless they are near the scene when someone decides to launch a few rockets and even then when you are a few streets away it is difficult to find out where they came from. The police have to rely on good sound information given to them by the public. Generaly throught the year they will not be to fussed if there is the odd firework here and there.. just that if they start getting complaints from other residents then they will enforce the law to its fullest and rightly so. Just wait till the weeks leading up to November 5th.. then try launching after 11... think you will find that they will be out in force.

Mark

Edited by The_Djinn, 07 September 2005 - 11:45 AM.

[BigG]

Anthoney ? I have no idea what the purpose of your question is. There are allot of laws in this country, and you are suppose to obey them. If you do something illegal and you get away with it, fine ? but it?s still illegal. If you get caught ? don?t go complaining, ?Other people do it to?.

Merseyside police made more then 100 arrest on the new fireworks curfew law last year. Bet that if they put all their force on the case they would be able to make 500. If they are there or they get a complaint and they can prove it, then the offender is in trouble. It they deal with other incident, then the offender gets away with it.

I really don?t see the purpose of your question. I think ranting about the police is really not a positive thing to do ? when it comes to handling fireworks and the law, they do very good job.

[Creepin_pyro]

After re-reading your posts I'm still not sure what your point is - maybe if you made your sentences a bit shorter your posts would be easier to read.

Personally I don't think normal corner shops can be trusted to not sell to minors. Fireworks will always end up in the hands of youngsters anyway. Police have to prioritise, and I think we should trust their judgement in these matters.

[BigG]

After re-reading your posts I'm still not sure what your point is - maybe if you made your sentences a bit shorter your posts would be easier to read.

Personally I don't think normal corner shops can be trusted to not sell to minors.  Fireworks will always end up in the hands of youngsters anyway.  Police have to prioritise, and I think we should trust their judgement in these matters.

Same here. Looks to me a bit pointless. I'll see how this thread advance, and if it does not go anywhere we will finish it off.

[The_Djinn]

"Personally I don't think normal corner shops can be trusted to not sell to minors"

I beg to differ... a lot of the time it is corner shop owners children running around with stuff in the streets. Anyway, there is another law to cover that.. no under 18 may posses/have in there possesion any fireworks in a public place (streets, parks.. any public place) and it is a good thing after seeing the cake battles a couple of years back.. then again, taking on a few of the idiots with some CAT 4 fan cakes may be a novel experience . In China or may have been Japan, there is an anual event where you take a box of fireworks, hand over some good hard earned cash and gain entrance to a stadium.. plenty of PPE is advised because anything goes.. you can launch what the hell you like in any dam direction you like and believe you me it may be amusing to watch but I would not like to venture inside the stadium.

Seriously, if we want to be able to enjoy fireworks for years to come then we have to go with these laws which are there to protect inocent people and stop people getting anoyed.. failure to curb some of the anti social behaviour can only result in a blanket ban as can already be seen in various other countrys.

Edited by The_Djinn, 07 September 2005 - 06:55 PM.

[sizzle]

I think the 11 o'clock curfew is unfair, I can understand about noisey fireworks but we are not allowed to set of almost noisless things like fountains either. This annoys me a lot because I rarely make any noisey ones anyway and now I barely have time to set them off, it's usually only dark after half nine in the summer.

[karlfoxman]

I am in two minds on this topic, firstly i had an experience recentlly of a group of ladies that were having a party. It was after 11 o'clock and i was getting ready to sleep......BOOM!! A bloody signal rocket went off, then atferwards a few other display rockets! Now where i live is built up, those heavy sticks would land on a roof somewhere or on a car or even person. I was not best pleased, neither was my dad who went over the house and had a go at them. On a brighter note when he came back he said they must have been lesbians because they were all half naked, if i had been more lively i would have gone over there But serious now it really is not on when this is done, even quiet fireworks should not be set off after 11 as people will abuse this and go onto larger items. Even in late summer nights 11 o'clock is very reasonable, i doubt you would need more than 1 hour to fire a display guys!!

[The_Djinn]

Karl, please feel free to pass on my info to the ladies in question... I would be more than happy to do a display for them

Mark

[ChesterPFX]

Have done quite a few pro displays (wedding, birthdays etc) through out the summer and haven't found the curfew any trouble at all. Have fired a couple of displays at 10.45hrs. On those occasions we spoke to the function organiser and told them we would fire at 10.30 at the latest (which gives us 15 minutes leeway for wind changes etc) and made it clear that if we weren't started by that time, there would be no display. So far we have had no arguments, most people think that an 11.00 curfew is reasonable.

[sizzle]

I certainly don't, I usually only have time to make my fireworks in the evenings, and by the time I have made three or four... oh look it's ten to eleven.. and I end up having to wait another week untill I'm next available, I mean surely silent fireworks should be allowed, what exactly do they have against them? or maybe they could make the curfew 12AM, I know it's 12 for November the 5th and New Year's Eve but maybe they should make those curfews 1AM.