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Cakes with a flat plastic foot base;why stake?


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#1 Guest_Anthony_*

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:04 PM

-_- I get a lot of Shogun Maverick and Vulcan cakes with flat plastic foot bases, and I never ever stake these out for firing because the base is quite steady and sturdy enough to take the recoil of shots firing from them;why do they still need to be staked out even if they are stable and safe enough to stand unassisted on a flat level board or surface? Sandling give these cakes the instruction"Place upright on flat ground or wooden board" which to me is very sensible and I would always follow it this way. :mellow:

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:13 PM

who stakes commercial cakes ? I wedge 'em against wooden battons on my firing pallet, but stake a cake ? why ?
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:15 PM

-_- I get a lot of Shogun Maverick and Vulcan cakes with flat plastic foot bases, and I never ever stake these out for firing because the base is quite steady and sturdy enough to take the recoil of shots firing from them;why do they still need to be staked out even if they are stable and safe enough to stand unassisted on a flat level board or surface? Sandling give these cakes the instruction"Place upright on flat ground or wooden board" which to me is very sensible and I would always follow it this way. :mellow:

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Most cakes that can stand on flat ground have a heavy base. The manufacturer load the bottom with clay or heavy tubes to make sure that they stay put. On the other end, why to take a chance? I have a friend who had one of those cake come apart and one of the tubes, still loaded, falling sideway, send the next star strait through the window. It started fire in his upper floor and caused some minor damage. If it was staked and taped, the firework would not have any of the tubes fall over.

Most of those fireworks spend many weeks at sea, and some of them might be effected by adverse weather conditions. I stake mine whatever the recommendation.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:33 PM

Staking a cake will not stop it falling apart and taping a commercial cake does seem like overkill. But hey you don't see many paranoics missing fingers - so if you got the time and inclination it can't hurt - but I don't feel it's actually necessary :-)
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:37 PM

It is industry practice to secure all cake type devices with a stake or wood frame or similar. I have seen unsecured cakes tip over from recoil. Staking a cake will ensure if it does fall apart it will probably not be in the direction of the audience.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:40 PM

I mean the ones you sometimes see with a plastic foot around the base covering the bottom centre to edge;these don't need staking, there are a few Vulcan/Maverick & Shogun ones and some other brands which are like this. :D

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 02:48 PM

I had a cake jump on its side from recoil a long while ago. It was sitting on a firm surface as reccomended, but it just flipped on its side and kept going. :o
Since that day i stake and tape cakes down.
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 03:35 PM

Try to imagine a cake say 100 shot, if it fell over on the first few shots then your in trouble!! The remaining shots will go ANYWHERE! Why take a chance by not securing it? I would rather go to the trouble (if you can even call some wood a hammer and gaffer tape trouble) of ensuring the device will not recoil and fall, than having the chance of injury/damage caused. The question is do you want the chances of something going wrong reduced? I hope you answer yes. Just my opinion. :D

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 03:36 PM

In practice even if the cake fell over it should not reach the audiance... staking is just a secondry precaution.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 08:51 PM

i just bury then quite shallow in the ground, i once had one shoot sideways, straight in my direction, i was glad i was 25 meters away!

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 06:55 AM

A cake is unlikely to fall over, but it is not impossible, especially if something goes wrong, for example, one of the shots blows in the tube. Staking a cake to the ground is not that difficult or time consuming, and if you've got an easy way to make a show that bit safer, it's silly not to take advantage of it.




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