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#16 phildunford

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 10:20 AM

Think the Old Italian Effect I'd like to see most is the Gabe Morte (dead head I think) where a bag containing about 5Kg of flash powder (yes 5Kg!) was detonated on a gallows at head height at the end of a display when the audience thought it was all over!

Think you would need St John ambulance for all the heart attacks. Those were the days...
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#17 Potassium chlorate

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 02:29 PM

I have both shellac and hexamine. Stearin I can get from candles. Colophonium I can either buy in a music instrument store or order on the net. Everything's worth trying.

Do you have the ratios for the potassium perchlorate/Paris Green/hexamine, MDH?

5 kilos of flash sounds like something, Phil. :)
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:50 PM

No, it was a "random test" because at the time I wasn't interested in optimizing ratios, just witnessing this Paris Green everybody was talking about. I can only describe it as similar to Shimizu black copper oxide formulas, but this had no chlorine donor. I also remember seeing a polish man on YouTube who had a potassium chlorate variant that was actually quite beautiful and very bright. I think his was in order by quantity, potassium chlorate, paris green, hexamine and parlon. That video has been removed as a "violation of community guidelines" for several years now like just about everything on Youtube. He also had a whistle made with ascorbic acid and potassium chlorate which sounded almost like a gym coach's whistle.

That's mostly why I still haven't joined youtube :).

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#19 Potassium chlorate

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:52 PM

If you get hold of some Paris Green, try this. You might think it would be aqua, given the ratios of barium and copper respectively, but it's very blue and very bright:

Bleser Blue #1

barium chlorate 53
potassium chlorate 12
red gum 10
Paris Green 8
black copper oxide 8
PVC 5
dextrin 4

And let me add that I think David Bleser is under-estimated. Most of his formulas that I have tested is really great stuff. :)
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#20 starseeker

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:58 PM

Think the Old Italian Effect I'd like to see most is the Gabe Morte (dead head I think) where a bag containing about 5Kg of flash powder (yes 5Kg!) was detonated on a gallows at head height at the end of a display when the audience thought it was all over!

Think you would need St John ambulance for all the heart attacks. Those were the days...

That is also some thing i would love to see/hear,feel.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:01 AM

That's mostly why I still haven't joined youtube :).

Why would anyone bother with YouTube, when there is Pyrobin? The only "community guidelines" there are that pics and videos must be pyro relayed. They even allow anonymous uploads.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:59 PM

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