[Richard H]

Digger is correct when he asserts that the load will default to the highest division on the vehicle. So 300KG NEQ of 1.4G consumer fireworks would be considered 300KG of 1.1G if a single 8" shell was on-board for example.

Any ADR course tailored for the firework trade will cover the core syllabus, plus specialist training for carriers of Class 1 goods (as would be the case for us).

[Rick]

Core just covers basic requirements of the carriage of dangerous goods; modules are then taken for each class of dangerous goods.
Core and explosives will only certify you for the carriage of explosives by road.

[Firework Crazy]

Depends where.

This post has been edited by mdj101: 30 April 2009 - 08:17 PM

[Rick]

Anything being arranged?

I missed the opportunity to sit a refresher so will be looking to sit Core and Explosives again.

Ideal time early September in the SW

[Rick]

Looking at 18th,19th and 20th of September.

Location Dunkeswell Ecopark, Devon.

ADR Core and Explosives - price (had to hire a room) will be around £125+VAT then 2 exams at £20 inclusive each.

Please let me know if anyone would like a place.

Regards

Rick

[Rick]

8 definite
5 possible

The course is filling rapidly

[Richard H]

Put me down as a possible Rick...

[Rick]

There is now more interest than places.

If you wish to attend please confirm as soon as possible.

Cheers

Rick

[Starsky72]

any chance of getting something sorted further north, I am sure there would b a number of interested parties for a midlands/yorkshire course

[David]

fruitfulsteve, on 29 April 2009 - 12:03 PM, said:

If NEQ means what i think it does 50kg is quite a lot and 500kg is more than enough for a small cat3 display!!

If your sole interest is in buying and using CAT 3 for (comparativly) small, private displays (such is the case with me) then ADR almost certainly isn't required.

If you are buying 1.3G, the supplier should be able to tell you the NEQ/NEC. 50KG would (roughly) be 25 of the very biggest cakes.

This post has been edited by David: 28 July 2009 - 10:08 AM

[digger]

David, on 28 July 2009 - 10:05 AM, said:

If your sole interest is in buying and using CAT 3 for (comparativly) small, private displays (such is the case with me) then ADR almost certainly isn't required.

If you are buying 1.3G, the supplier should be able to tell you the NEQ/NEC. 50KG would (roughly) be 25 of the very biggest cakes.

Not so much though if your a pro with a suitable van.

edit for grammar

This post has been edited by digger: 28 July 2009 - 09:15 PM

[David]

digger, on 28 July 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

Not so much though if you a pro with a suitable van.

Yeah, thats the difference.

A pro, of course, would typically use Cat 4 as well, which changes the situation somewhat, as mentioned previously just a few shells can up the NEC to 50KG.

[PyroPDC]

could someone help me answer a couple of questions on ADR

1) is this course still up for doing or has it already been done.
2) I know the exceptions to ADR eg 50kg of 1.1 1.2 1.3 using a diesel van with bulkhead but if i had ADR what is the maximum i can hold in the same stranded diesel van (with bulkhead)

3) could anyone that has done the course comment how hard it was.

Many thanks
PyroPDC

This post has been edited by PyroPDC: 17 February 2010 - 02:24 AM

[digger]

1.) It was done last year (not organised by the UKPS)

2.)There will be no difference to what you can carry in your diesel van once you have ADR as you wont be able to use ADR class 1 on a standard van. For you to be able to carry more in the van you will need to have an approved vehicle. This is not just a van with a bulkhead. the cabling has to be enclosed in the load area, the brakes have to be uprated etc etc etc. Contact VOSA for the full specification. Once you have an approved vehicle you will be able to carry upto the weight limit for the vehicle. The other option is to use a trailer as it is easier to get a trailer approved as there is less mechanical/electrical work to have approved.

3.) Yep done the course. Not to bad all in all. fairly easy, as long as you pay attention you will pass it. There are a few preconceived ideas that you will have to get over when doing it.

4.) Contact Friendberry LTD to see when they are running a course.

This post has been edited by digger: 17 February 2010 - 07:29 AM

[Arthur Brown]

It is mandatorily a three day course so it is not cheap. If a group of 20 want to do it it does come out a LOT cheaper -but getting 20 of us to agree together....

If you find a course being run with open places then take one!

One of the interesting things we could do is get a DGSA to discus for us How to transport explosives while staying below the scope of ADR while remaining legally compliant.

Very few people can justify the cost of a EX rated vehicle.