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#1 David

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 02:43 PM

Here is a link to Brother's "Midnight." - Basically, the top end (£150) of their range. What do people think? It certainly looks very well crafted! But never the less, at the asking price, I wonder who this is aimed at.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 03:31 PM

It's okay I wouldn't pay half of that price for it though.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:03 PM

yeah, to expensive,$$$ just think what else you could buy with the cash, much toooooo long for that sort of money you want to stand out from the crowd and fill the sky with colour/ noise, and a bit "samey"

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:18 PM

Nice enough firework. But I would feel like my pants had been pulled right down if I had paid £150 for that.

Too slow paced, not enough shots for the money.

It is becoming clear to me why I am losing faith in consumer fireworks.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:36 PM

But I would feel like my pants had been pulled right down if I had paid £150 for that.


lol one way of putting it. :lol:

id have to agree a nice mixture of effects (very slow) but to me it not worth £150. More like £50

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:53 AM

id have to agree a nice mixture of effects (very slow) but to me it not worth £150. More like £50


nice one, you find me some fireworks like that that I can retail at £50 and I'll have a container full...

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:40 AM

How much are these things to buy from china?
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:55 AM

How much are these things to buy from china?




There might be a set trade price to the retailer and the retailer and supplier might also negotiate a further discount. (As with lots of businesses)



Don't forget that retailers have other costs too- opperating costs, storage, insurance , licenses and the like.

Edited by David, 02 July 2009 - 09:57 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:09 AM

lol one way of putting it. :lol:

id have to agree a nice mixture of effects (very slow) but to me it not worth £150. More like £50


Personally I don't really think I could justify spending more than £50-£60 on any single firework.

To be clearly- I'm NOT saying that midnight is only worth £50. What I'm saying is that it's price is more than I'm comfortable spending.

That said, the "£150 plus" top end items arn't new- "Fridge in a Box" candle/mine combos have been around for a few years at at least £150- presumably people do buy them!

Edited by David, 02 July 2009 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:32 AM

Fridge in a Box&quot; candle/mine combos have been around for a few years at at least £150- presumably people do buy them!<br />

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I had one last year, it did give quite a good show, but not getting one this year!

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 12:12 PM

How much are these things to buy from china?



not sure, but as with all things there are lots of other costs...


how much is

The trip out to china, the exchange rate, the transportation costs is China, the shipping costs, Port Charges, Terminal Handling charge, Presentation Fee, ISPS Security Charge, Import customs clearance Charge, Port Levy, Haulage in the UK, Duty, VAT, storage and insurance in the UK etc etc

(and being a complete novice when it comes to importing I am sure I have missed plenty as well!!)


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 12:51 PM

In this case, I think the fireworks are imported/distributed by Brother's UK, who are a division of Brothers (who make the fireworks.)
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 01:30 PM

You would potentially only need VAT if you are earning over £67 k. I know there are a lot of fees to pay out etc but I am sure the fireworks themselves cost pittance compared to what we pay here for over packaged goods. The items will be bought in bulk in huge shipment loads which I assume will keep costs low due to the large amount ordered. Isn't the storage license costs for storing fireworks a yearly payment? if you own premises you will also have to pay business rates.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 01:39 PM

You would potentially only need VAT if you are earning over £67 k.


Virtually all businesses who sell fireworks in the UK ARE Vat registered.

In the rare cases where they are not, then VAT will have been paid on the wholesale price. (VAT registered businesses would simply claim this back.)

Remember, RRP's include VAT. A retailer isn't really selling an item for £150 at all- he is selling it for £130, and collecting £20 on behalf of the governement on that sale.

Edited by David, 02 July 2009 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 02:45 PM

Money to the gov that goes nowhere.
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