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#76 cooperman435

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:55 PM

well the way they work is they can make me 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1", 1 1/4", 1 1/2" tubes of almost any wall thickness I want. Each tube size is a seperate run, so I pay setup then per tube, obviously the total price is divided by all the tubes giving a price per tube.

Unfortunately as the setup fee is so large and is paid for every separate size I have made it is almost pointless getting only 1000 or even 2000 of a size as the setup fee divided up makes them too expensive,

I have however an advantage as these tubes will have far thicker walls than anything I have ever seen before so I know they will be popular once they have earned themselves a name.

realistically I want to get 1/4", 1/2", 3/4" and 1" tubes but that would mean (if I am to get all the sizes) a minimum of 20,000 tubes and to make the price per tube better 40,000 tubes which is to say the least A LOT.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:01 AM

well the way they work is they can make me 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1", 1 1/4", 1 1/2" tubes of almost any wall thickness I want. Each tube size is a seperate run, so I pay setup then per tube, obviously the total price is divided by all the tubes giving a price per tube.

Unfortunately as the setup fee is so large and is paid for every separate size I have made it is almost pointless getting only 1000 or even 2000 of a size as the setup fee divided up makes them too expensive,

I have however an advantage as these tubes will have far thicker walls than anything I have ever seen before so I know they will be popular once they have earned themselves a name.

realistically I want to get 1/4", 1/2", 3/4" and 1" tubes but that would mean (if I am to get all the sizes) a minimum of 20,000 tubes and to make the price per tube better 40,000 tubes which is to say the least A LOT.


Well like I say eBay might be a good place to offload a few, especially if you do them in big packs i.e. 50+

But theres also alot of firework sites that dont sell tubes, or not a good variety. Perhaps if you approach them and do some networking you could offload some more? You never know somebody might actually chip in with you as it would be a good deal for them!
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 05:19 PM

Hello ,

I dont post much, but here and there i have some experience.. and when it comes to tubes i need to throw in my 2 Cents.

Im mostly doing rockets in various sizes the past 5 years or so and i obtained loads of different tubes during the time. And if thereŽs something you learn by that , is that wall thickness isnt all (in some cases it doesnt matter at all) . The strenght of a tube comes from the paper and more important from the glue which was used during manufacture. I got a lot of different tubes from germany (since its where im located) but also got tubes from sweden , Uk and US . The tubes which were sold by an english site not so long ago (europtubes .pyrotubes for europe or something like that) were actually the same precocious pyro sells in the US , and they come with 6mm wall thickness or so . First time i got these tubes i thought..damnit ..finally you found the "holy grail" of the tubes, since they seemed so sturdy and hard .. well ,they worked not too good . During the pressing ..bulged , ripped inside the support sleeve and so on .
To make a long story short ..i tried the Nept tubes, which are sold by Mr. Biersach (US) and found these to be the " holy grail" of the tubes. Once you used them at least one time youŽll never look back at any tube you used before.

So..talking about ordering tubes large scale , i would think one would go for the best tube he could get , and this would mean tubes made from virgin lightweight paper with phenol resin or other compareable resins. Tubes made that way dont need such a overkill wall thickness...3mm is all it needs . Of course you still need a sleeve, but if you pound em..you wont get these easy to bulge or to crack.

Well just my two cents

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 05:33 PM

How about here...they look ok and are cheap:

http://www.pyrosuppl...ubes/4520679386
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 09:50 AM

Hello everyone. Im currently well out of the pyrotechnics and have been for months as im pursuing bigger interests (believe it or not!) in life. Pyrotubes4europe.com ran out of webspace and some tw@t bought the web name before i could re-new so thats why it never started back up, plus tube prices were high and damand low. Would never make me rich lol.

Anyway iv got about 200 - 36" x 1" id tubes left, parallel wound with 7mm wall thickness, very strong.
Also got a couple hundred 1/4" x 8" id tubes, parallel wound with 2-3mm walls, also very strong and handy for all sorts.

Il sell the LOT for 200 quid plus what ever postage comes to (would probs be around 45 quid) , or collect from Middlesbrough. Thats less than 50p a tube!

If your interested in the lot of just 20 or so let me know by PM. If not il prob just re-cycle them all and get rid coz their just in the way in the unit.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:45 AM

Go to Stells. That's who we used when I was at Wells.

http://www.stells.co.uk/
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