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#16 cooperman435

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

yep, I made the assumption of psi or tons-i on the gauge not tons full stop so the first part of my calculations werent needed.

 

however I still think you have something wrong in your post #8

 

3000kg = 6614pounds

the diameter of the ram piston is 48mm( = 1.889 inches), therefore surface area = 2.80 inch^2

this then presses on the tooling which is a cored cylinder (diameter 50mm (1.969 inches), with a central core of 22mm
(0.866 inches) bored out, so I calculate the area of the tooling as

Cylinder surface area = pi x (0.9845)^2 = 3.05 inch^2

Core surface area = pi x (0.433)^2 = 0.589 inch^ -

therefore Tooling surface area = 2.461 inch62


I wanted to see how this compared to typical rocket pressing pressures

so, 6614 / 2.80 = 2362 psi

so pressure on tooling is 2362 x 2.461 = 5813 psi

 

you have correctly converted kg to lb so we know the force generated by the ram (3000kg \ 6614lb) divided by the ram area gives the oil PSI (2362psi)

 

you don't really need this though as the oil is only acting on the ram generating force which we already know is 3000kg \ 6614lb

 

you then multiplied the OIL psi by your tooling which is wrong.

 

you should have divided the FORCE generated by the ram (3000kg \ 6614lb) by the tooling surface to give the PSI on the composition  (as per the latter part of my calculation)

 

so I make it force/tooling area=psi on the comp so     6614 / 2.461 = 2687.52 PSI 

 

AGAIN PLEASE anyone correct me if wrong?



#17 Mumbles

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:50 AM

That would make sense if the guage is already calibrated to the ram diameter.  I've never actually seen one that is setup this way, but it's certainly not impossible.  You could always whip up an external p2f gauge to confim what you're actually pressing to.

 

http://www.wichitabu.../ptof/ptof.html



#18 dave

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:31 PM

phil, mumbles

 

i think we finally have a concensus

 

it seems my compaction psi is not as high as I thought, but the pellet integrity is fine

 

thanks for the help guys

dave



#19 cooperman435

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:49 PM

Ladies and Gents we have a winner :-)






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