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#1 Mark Griffin

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Posted 24 January 2016 - 11:09 AM

Any members here live on Jersey?  Having seen that the UK laws do not apply I'm having trouble finding out which ones do. I want to do a BP making demo there and I'd be making no more than the usual 100g (and not storing, getting rid straight away under controlled circumstances) but I cant find out whether even that is permissable.

 

I know they have slightly more relaxed rules but even so, I don't want any hassles.

 

Thanks!

 

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#2 Arthur Brown

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Posted 24 January 2016 - 11:47 AM

Reading the Act (ER2014) it's not obvious to me whether this applies in the Channel Islands. http://www.hse.gov.u...losives/elo.htm gives no details for an ELO in the channel Islands. Probably it's best to talk to the Police service on the Island. 

 

That it seems that there is no C.I. ELO on the HSE's list could mean that there is no limit to 100g or that there is no "100g rule". 


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 11:53 AM

http://www.jersey.po...s-certificates/

 

The firearms officers will likely know the Explosives officers.


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Posted 26 January 2016 - 01:08 AM

Thanks, talking to my by shooting friends over there.

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 08:26 AM

Hi Mark. 

 

If you need info. Start with the Fire service, not the firearms Dept   The UK Act (ER2014) does not mean anything in Jersey.and bares absolutely no similarity to uk Law let alone Donkey land. Try and find  a certain Deputy

T McD whom I am sure still knows the right people .  

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 09:52 AM

Many thanks JC, v useful.

 

I know the UK law means nothing officially, just sometimes they import legislation and re brand it.  I work there a lot but never done this before, I usually let the locals make the bangs with their own bp.

 

Love Jersey and its feudal charms :-)



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Posted 26 January 2016 - 10:38 AM

Maybe take a look here page 10?? https://www.gov.je/S... 100101 LMR.pdf
or here article 3 http://www.jerseylaw...y2013.htm#ID237


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Edited by maxman, 26 January 2016 - 10:40 AM.


#8 Mark Griffin

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 02:05 PM

Jersey Fire Service Explosive Officer incredibly helpful. There is no 100g rule over there. Its never happened to their knowledge so there is no provision in their law for it saving don't do anything to endanger life, limb and property. They are happy to issue an official sanction so my 'Bigger Bang Theory show' can go ahead :-)

 

Always nice on Jersey....



#9 Mark Griffin

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 02:10 PM

Hi Rod, our posts crossed there.  Thanks for the info.

 

Your 2nd link looks like I'll have to go back and point that out. He's happy to sanction my 100g at a time demo, but by looking at it as there isn't a specific exemption in place, might have to go a bit more formal, which I'm perfectly happy to do.



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Posted 26 January 2016 - 03:46 PM

Hi Mark.

 

pay very particular attention to the use of igniters and transportation, They are only £29p each  and come under the high explosive category , the same as igniter cord and if the incorrect  procedures are not followed  you'll regret it anything else you'll have great fun. Some superb memories of doing firework displays their with Pyromac.



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Posted 26 January 2016 - 04:16 PM

Hi Mark.

 

pay very particular attention to the use of igniters and transportation, They are only £29p each  and come under the high explosive category , the same as igniter cord and if the incorrect  procedures are not followed  you'll regret it anything else you'll have great fun. Some superb memories of doing firework displays their with Pyromac.

 

All the ones I have are 1.4S


Phew that was close.

#12 pyrothrust

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 05:27 PM

As soon as they cross into Jersey waters the classification will change from something harmless to top of the list the  same as high explosives.



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Posted 26 January 2016 - 07:17 PM

That's correct. And as you will have to sail them across you also come under some of their maritime legislation too. 

 

Its simply bp, 33.3 g approx at a time so I'm initiating with touchpaper. Simple as possible. 



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Posted 26 January 2016 - 08:33 PM

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