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#16 David G

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:21 PM

Thanks Guys
 
My EPP as it stands is only for 1KG of perc plus 1KG of P chlorate. I didn't want to apply for a large amount in case it jeperdised the application. So you can probably understand my reluctance to travel far.
 
I appreciate that some chems have to be controlled and I'm not criticising the process. Had I known of the difficulty of living so far away from suppliers I probalby wouldn't have bothered at all.
 
I may just try making my own as Martyn suggested. In the interim I guess its' back to the tried and trusted KN03


Try Pyro-gear. Seriously good guy.

#17 NeilB

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 02:16 PM

Inoxia is 3 hrs away from me so will probably stay in Brighton for the weekend. Hell I might even see if i can get round the Top Gear test track as it's just next door lol.

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 02:18 PM

Try Pyro-gear. Seriously good guy.


Do you have to sign up to pyro gear? I go on their web site and can only find some fuse and other bits.

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#19 David G

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 02:45 PM

Do you have to sign up to pyro gear? I go on their web site and can only find some fuse and other bits.
Neil.


It is best to email them. There is a contact on the shop part. The email is
sales@pyro-gear.co.uk

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:07 PM

Ahh ok. Thankyou David.

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#21 Rob.L.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:09 AM

 
 

 

After over 2 month I finally got my EPP licence throught the post. This was after being held to ransom by my GP (£150 for the sanity check)

 

With great anticipation I put in an order for Potassium Perchlorate(one of the items on my EPP)

 

I then find the law says that I have to appear in person in front of the supplier with the ID I used on the EPP application. I live in the SW of England and do not know of any local suppliers.

 

At no point in my research on the EPP application process was I made aware of this restriction. It may be on the gov web site, if it is I didn't see it.

 

One supplier was prepared to sell if I sent my EPP AND ID by registered post - they would then return this after a few days with the chems.

 

MY ID is my passport, which as I still work occasionally, I can need at very short notice. I'm prepared to send my passport registered post to the passport office  but would have to think long and hard before sending it elsewhere.

 

It seems that I have spent £200 on a licence that is worthless to me.

 

I'll maybe have to take up knitting if there isn't a requirement for a licence to buy the needles!

 

A very disappointed pryo enthusiast (maybe that is now ex enthusiast)

 

Apologies for my late reply on this, life is not always straight forward.

 

As I live in the Westcountry I would be able to supply to you and meet you part way, We had discussed this in the member section. The same applies to any other genuine hobbyist near me.

 

As a total die hard in this matter I currently drive 600 to 1000 miles each year in the pursuit of chemicals and will continue to do so. I am not here to be defeated and I am not prepared, for my part at least, to see that the community is either.

 

As others have said, please do NOT go down the road of any postal supply. If perc or anything else was ever intercepted in the post then all hell would break loose, you may find that in the wider community you get well meaning offers to go the delivery route but be warned: There are those out there who despite being very experienced pyro hobbyists still have an 'old school' mentality. Whilst this is O.K. for them it is not O.K. in reallity. If it goes wrong you will find yourself in deep trouble, way over your head.

 

If we get to meet up I can explain how all of this works in the real world as I have gone through all of this myself.

 

You have a P.M. so Chin up mate, the community is out there and willing to help!



#22 Rob.L.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:42 AM

 
 

Just a little addendum to think over,

 

In 1968 the firearms act significantly restricted the ownership of firearms and the 1997 amendment brought further misery to the shooting community, knee jerk legislation that was ill thought out.

The community remains under pressure.

 

These are the kind of changes that have occurred for us in the 'chemical' community now all be it 40 odd years later.

 

To be involved in pyrotechnics involves sufficient commitment and insight to weather the storms of legislation etc.

 

The shooting community still thrives and is getting bigger despite having to jump through exactly the same kind of hoops that we have to now. This is down to the grit and determination of the people in that community.

 

Do you understand where I am coming from.........



#23 bullstreetboy

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:52 AM

Guys

 

"Shooting community" - yes indeed - I have guns BUT there are far more guns shops than chem supplies as far as I am aware. I can travel 6 miles  and get any gun related  supplies that I might need.

 

I even have a black powder licence for loading 12G cartridges for my Damascus barrelled hammer  shotgun. (Don't go duck flighting at night with these - the muzzle flash in blinding!)

 

It looks like I'll be boiling bleach!


Edited by bullstreetboy, 27 September 2017 - 08:49 AM.


#24 Arthur Brown

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:55 PM

The forum used to arrange meetings to shoot fireworks, which were ideal opportunities for the few ingredient vendors to meet customers, perhaps someone new could find a suitable venue somewhere and organise a meetup.


http://www.movember.com/uk/home/

Keep mannequins and watermelons away from fireworks..they always get hurt..

#25 bullstreetboy

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:32 PM

That would be good

 

As I said I'm not a clubby type of person - some would describe me as a loner  - in my lab brewing things!

 

Please let me know if and when.

 

I'll hopefully get to Plymouth next year!

 

Best

 

B


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#26 Arthur Brown

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 01:02 AM

The most successful events were where a general invitation went out to forum and society members to bring a commercial firework and we made a show from that -several firing systems exist among members. Added social success was when the host arranged delivery of dinner all round -for which we all paid our share.

 

ANYONE can find a venue and invite people. then it's up to the usual sellers to take orders and do personal face to face deliveries. -it's all been done before but the usual faces may have tired. There is always room for another volunteer!


http://www.movember.com/uk/home/

Keep mannequins and watermelons away from fireworks..they always get hurt..




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