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#76 Frozentech

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:17 AM

Well dude i don't want any sarcasm here this is my testing if you don't like it then don't reply and also maby scientists have done but other people have come up with things they have tried for ages how is this? because humans are all the same if humans have 3 hands and legs then maby you are different but we arn't so we can all break the rules of what we have and expand into the future creating new things finding out new ways just bare with it.


Or it could have been done, long ago...

from rec.pyrotecnics newsgroup :

A. C. Gilbert Chemistry Manual, 1936, p. 56, Experiment 41-- Oxidation of Spices:

'Mix together 4 parts cinnamon, 3 parts allspice, and 5 parts ground
cloves and grind together. Now add 8 parts potassium nitrate to the
above mixture but do not grind. Place some on a spoon and warm.
Notice the odor--much like perfume. Now ignite this mixture and you
will have a phenomena as wonderful as a 4th of July night fireworks. A
beautiful shower of colored fire will be the result.'
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#77 pyrotechnist

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 12:19 PM

Or it could have been done, long ago...

from rec.pyrotecnics newsgroup :

A. C. Gilbert Chemistry Manual, 1936, p. 56, Experiment 41-- Oxidation of Spices:

'Mix together 4 parts cinnamon, 3 parts allspice, and 5 parts ground
cloves and grind together. Now add 8 parts potassium nitrate to the
above mixture but do not grind. Place some on a spoon and warm.
Notice the odor--much like perfume. Now ignite this mixture and you
will have a phenomena as wonderful as a 4th of July night fireworks. A
beautiful shower of colored fire will be the result.'


Is that real? if so cool.
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#78 adamw

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 11:16 PM

Hah a bit eager there!:

Now ignite this mixture and you
will have a phenomena as wonderful as a 4th of July night fireworks. A
beautiful shower of colored fire will be the result.'


75 : 15: 10... Enough said!

#79 pyrotechnist

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:54 PM

Hi all sorry for sounding a bit of a dick in some of my posts i do not know what was up with me then. Hope you take my apoligies.

Edited by pyrotechnist, 27 June 2006 - 02:59 PM.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:43 PM

Sounds like you were going through a 'grooovy' phase.
75 : 15: 10... Enough said!

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:50 PM

Lol if you put it like that then yes :) still got more testing on that lol.
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Posted 07 October 2006 - 01:50 AM

I had an idea I never got around to trying, using flour as a fuel. I've seen chemistry demos, where a 'cloud' of flour is blown into a candle or bunsen burner, resulting in a quick 'fireball'. So theoretically I dont see why an oxidizer couldnt be added to achieve a BP type effect. Like onion skins :P though, there is no real chemical formula for white flour making it difficult to calculate ratios. I'll have to go experiment with it this week. Or tell me if you think this has no chance in working....

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 11:19 AM

Flour isn?t a good choice as a fuel. Tried it in different ratios with KNO3, KClO4 and KClO3 ... Only with KClO3 it worked nearly o.k but its sensitive to shock... (Test with an hammer --> small "explosion")

With KNO3 it just smoulders, even with sulfur in it. Just saw a demo where coffee is blown into the air and then ignited. Huge fireball, but you can?t use coffee powder in pyrotechnic composition though!

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 07:09 PM

Thats cool, Paul about coffee in pyro why can this not be used?
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:27 AM

Flour isn?t a good choice as a fuel. Tried it in different ratios with KNO3, KClO4 and KClO3 ... Only with KClO3 it worked nearly o.k but its sensitive to shock... (Test with an hammer --> small "explosion")

With KNO3 it just smoulders, even with sulfur in it. Just saw a demo where coffee is blown into the air and then ignited. Huge fireball, but you can?t use coffee powder in pyrotechnic composition though!



Ok.. thnx, ill stay away from it :)




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