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#1 newtoolsmith

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:31 PM

Hi friends,

look what was written to me relating to the topic "help me in making gunpowder" :


>Looking to the right top corner of this site will show you a button called "search".
m sorry m new so I didnt know much



>Many member use it and thats what you should do.
OK I'll use it



>What do you mean with gunpowder? Corned BP or nitrocellulose?
I mean black powder



>Are you sure that hammering BP is wise? I am not.
I know its not wise but its fine according to me. I used to do this when my ball mill was not working.


>What has dexrein to do in BP?
for ur kind information sometimes professionals use dextrin(dampened with a lot a lot a lot of water for the diappering method) in bp. Though I am not a professional.



>Without ball mill? Search for CIA method.
thanks I'll do that



>Without weighing the chemicals? I would not even think of...
sometimes we have to mix them by estimate when we dont have a scale. I have a very accurate one but my cousine dosnt have any. Any way experts can even make it by estimate though its not so powerful.



>Why doesnt your mill work?
Mind ur own business. My eye!... Why do u want to know this. It stopped working when I kicked it very hard in anger.



>You should read a lot here before going on. As I said somewhere else: we dont want to loose our members.

I agree that we dont want to loose members but I already know a lot so I dont need to read much.



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this time its me who is answering
The Pyromaniac



Hello Pyromaniac,

sorry but you are wrong. You have to read a lot!

Guinpowder and BP are two different things - so why do you say gunpowder while you mean BP?

Hamering BP is not fine, not for you nor for anyone else. Dont do something like this and dont say its good. There might be someone who tries and dies. It would be your fault.

Dextrin is a binder used fpr stars and so on. In real BP its useless. For lift or similar uses BP is pressed and corned withour dextrin.

If you dont weigh your ingredients, you wont get reliable results. Here again is a great danger of heavy accidents.

Do you think, people who kick their mill when they are angry shoulb handle pyro mixtures? Does anyone else think so?


Im sorry but this has to be published!! I think I have to save you and others.

Pyrotechnics are a very great hobby - but do it correctly and safe please.




MfG
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Edited by newtoolsmith, 06 January 2007 - 02:35 PM.


#2 portfire

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 03:30 PM

Gunpowder is the old turm for blackpowder, they are technically the same thing but since smokeless powder's came about gunpowder means both bp and nitrocellulose based powder's . i agree with you 100% with not hammering bp (bad idea ). he needs to read,read,read and then read some more and im sure if he use's the search facility he will find everything he needs to know about making bp :D

Edited by portfire, 06 January 2007 - 03:32 PM.

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#3 Ritual33

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 06:11 PM

I think he needs to re-think what he would like to do. Without using proper equiptment is it most of the time very time consuming and the product will be of a very poor product.

Where the hell did he get dextrin from? Seems like this guy has been given the wrong information or got the wrong end of the stick.

Simply put, I don't think he has the correct knowledge and maturity to be involved in pyrotechnics or handling any explosive materials at this moment in time.

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 07:14 PM

although im new to your site, im experienced in pyrotechnices. if you do not know what you ar doing, it is a good idea to start small.

#5 newtoolsmith

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 07:23 PM

Hi friends,

I told pyromaniac he will get all the help he needs here, right?

I worry about him beeing angry with me and experimenting on his own. :(

Lets give him good results and health!



Btw: My experimental 1" ID BP rocket catoed today, too long core and I was happy to be 20 meters away (ignited electrically). Seems we all are only humans...


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#6 Ritual33

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 07:32 PM

He will get all the help he needs if he's willing to accept where he is going wrong.

And about the rocket, do you need a hug? :)

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#7 newtoolsmith

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 08:21 PM

@ritual33:

If you tell me what a hug is I tell you if I need one! :P

Any help is welcome. It was the first try with 1" tube and the bang was quite loud...

I will significantly reduce the cores length for the next try.

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#8 Ritual33

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 08:37 PM

A hug is.... a hug, i was just messing.

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#9 portfire

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 11:26 PM

[quote name='newtoolsmith' date='Jan 6 2007, 07:23 PM' post='30281']

I worry about him beeing angry with me and experimenting on his own. :(

i hope he's not angry with you ,pyro is a serious and dangerous thing to be involved in, and in my eye's any advice is good advice

Edited by portfire, 10 January 2007 - 02:47 PM.

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#10 newtoolsmith

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 11:43 PM

@ritual33:

I used a translator and can tell you Im not as sad as I would have to be hugged. Thanks anyway, every consolation counts. :)

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