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#31 dr thrust

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 12:07 PM

Has anyone got a scan of a label for a 3-2-1 zero? I thought I had one but cant find it. I've looked on fireworks museum but can only find pictures of the banger. " re-creation time " :rolleyes:

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i had a similar problem trying to recreate "standard rocket labels" i found a large label on the fireworks museum site, to big for my purposes, so i broke out the old windows paint on my pc and took a good stab at it, heres the original (thank you firework museum)and my attempts , for my first go at the problem i copied it like for like, even the yellow back ground but found it gobbled up ink at an alarming rate, so black and white printed on yellow paper works a treat, if your stuck take your best shot at it i say :)
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#32 maxman

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 02:12 PM

Hello Dr Thrust :lol: No luck so far. I thought I'd got one off fireworks museum but I cant even find it on there. If all else fails and if I have enough time I might give that ago. Does it not say that their labels are 1:1 for recreating dummies? ;) I've found that they all print lots bigger. It might me doing something wrong.

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 09:26 PM

how about a low tech approach? ie felt tip pens and a letter stencil :), scan it and run off a dozen copies.
what are your plans for the fuse?

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:46 PM

how about a low tech approach? ie felt tip pens and a letter stencil :), scan it and run off a dozen copies.
what are your plans for the fuse?


Blue touchpaper for fuse of course. The 3-2-1-zero turned into a Brocks Cannon, oh well they were all the same anyway weren't they? (near enough)
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:36 PM

Out of interest is the small tube from the touchpaper the same as spolette, I guess that it is?
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 06:32 PM

In addition to vic`s question, how did firework manufactures insert touch paper into the thin fuse tubes to co-incide with pressing the comp without scrunching or keeping the touch paper in place?

If someone could explain the different stages of this process, I would be most grateful!

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:10 PM

Yeah pretty much a spollette. I dont know about the touchpaper,do you mean how its incorporated in the small tube in a 321?

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

The spolettes were almost certainly funnel and wired sand not pressed, The touchpaper was put on first, so very little pressure would be on the touchpaper. The touchpaper is rolled around the outside of the spolette tube and a piece of coloured paper pasted around the tube aftewards the same way a label is pasted around a tube.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:46 PM

The spolettes were almost certainly funnel and wired sand not pressed, The touchpaper was put on first, so very little pressure would be on the touchpaper. The touchpaper is rolled around the outside of the spolette tube and a piece of coloured paper pasted around the tube aftewards the same way a label is pasted around a tube.


Thanks, so the touch paper was sandwiched if you like = that makes sense!

Although I would have thought the inner spoolette must have been at least lightly pressed or injected with damp composition and left to dry to form a solid fuse before hand assembly of the rest of the banger? = meaning the funnel & wire method for such a thin fuse would have been too fiddly and slow for mass production in the 1960`s.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:35 PM

i see there was a raid on a shop a couple days back , 7500 bangers seized! some pics would of been nice ;) the story here manchester raid

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 09:47 PM

The spolettes were almost certainly funnel and wired sand not pressed, The touchpaper was put on first, so very little pressure would be on the touchpaper. The touchpaper is rolled around the outside of the spolette tube and a piece of coloured paper pasted around the tube aftewards the same way a label is pasted around a tube.


I'm sorry to contradict you here but the process was as follows;

The touchpapered "spouts" were bought in as made, They were not processed in any way, I don't know how the manufacturers produced these though.

The units were bundled up by outworkers and bought into the factory, they were then filled en-masse by hand, powder was scooped crudely into and over the bundle and the were then rammed by hand using a hammer and mandrel. It was not the most skilled job in the factory, a man called Keith did it at Astra, all day, every day, all year round. Occassionally he or his shed were commandeered for some other purpose. He did it for years and years and all you heard when passing his shed was a fast paced chink-chink-chink. (I lie actually because if you came into sight he would stop and watch you walk past through the window, very unnerving!)

The mix, from memory, was Pot Nit. S. Charcoal and meal powder.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:18 PM

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:26 PM

Just copy and paste onto you works or word and resize. All thanks to my very clever daughter
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:49 PM

I changed the label slightly and this is what I ended up with



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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:59 PM

nice!, created on windows paint?




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