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[AdmiralDonSnider]

I know I´m probably going to earn a grin at best, but does anybody know where to get a hold of one of the following chems (inside Europe). You can get a lot nowadays, but these chems are still impossible to find, at least for me. Please share your sources if there are some.

Saran
Hexachlorobenzene
Copper acetoarsenite (paris green) or arsenic trioxide
Pine root pitch
Aluminum flitters (fine, medium and coarse grades, Eckart)
Ultramarine
Magnesium atomized
Vinsol resin (BL colophony)

Everything else is more or less easily obtainable.

Edited by AdmiralDonSnider, 13 January 2011 - 09:33 PM.

[Maxim]

I know I´m probably going to earn a grin at best, but does anybody know where to get a hold of one of the following chems (inside Europe). You can get a lot nowadays, but these chems are still impossible to find, at least for me. Please share your sources if there are some.

Saran
Hexachlorobenzene
Copper acetoarsenite (paris green) or arsenic trioxide
Pine root pitch
Aluminum flitters (fine, medium and coarse grades, Eckart)
Ultramarine
Magnesium atomized
Vinsol resin (BL colophony)

Everything else is more or less easily obtainable.

I have a kilo of synthetic ultramarine i got from Egypt if thats of any use/interest to you?

[AdmiralDonSnider]

Thanks for the offer. I also realized that digger offers Ultramarine, so I´ll probably buy it there...

[MDH]

I would actually be willing to invest a good dollar if Swede is selling paris green. He seems to have some on hand, or knows where to buy it. I have played around with paris green before but it was very old and black in places.

Hexachlorobenzene is also something I want to have for curiosity's sake, if nothing else - but it seems to me as though the investment is barely worth it.

[dave]

I know I´m probably going to earn a grin at best, but does anybody know where to get a hold of one of the following chems (inside Europe). You can get a lot nowadays, but these chems are still impossible to find, at least for me. Please share your sources if there are some.

Saran
Hexachlorobenzene
Copper acetoarsenite (paris green) or arsenic trioxide
Pine root pitch
Aluminum flitters (fine, medium and coarse grades, Eckart)
Ultramarine
Magnesium atomized
Vinsol resin (BL colophony)

Everything else is more or less easily obtainable.

hi,
does ultramarine have any pyro uses ?.........thought it was basically a clay based pigment.........beautiful blue though !

dave

[Creepin_pyro]

Dave, Ultramarine makes some nice yellows apparently, like the modified Luce Forte I posted recently. I've never tried it myself but do have a small amount. I think it has fallen out of use in favour of cryolite / Sodium Oxalate.

I would actually be willing to invest a good dollar if Swede is selling paris green. He seems to have some on hand, or knows where to buy it. I have played around with paris green before but it was very old and black in places.

Hexachlorobenzene is also something I want to have for curiosity's sake, if nothing else - but it seems to me as though the investment is barely worth it.

I'd also be very interested in a bit of HCB if anyone has any leads...

By the way, anyone heard from Swede recently?

[Mumbles]

We were wondering the same thing over at APC. He apparently made a post on science madness that he was having some medical issued, and no one has heard from him in a while. We tried to e-mail him, but it bounced. I still have a few other e-mail addresses to try.

[AdmiralDonSnider]

No sources for atomized Mg anyone? It´s said to be the best for strobes, at least if you believe Dave Bleser.

[Vic]

And I would pay a Kings ransom for some:
Aluminum flitters (fine, medium and coarse grades, Eckart)

[digger]

And I would pay a Kings ransom for some:
Aluminum flitters (fine, medium and coarse grades, Eckart)

Yep it is necessary to pay a kings ransom for it. As you know I have been trying to get it in stock, but I just don't think I can make it economic as I am being quoted £1000 per drum before vat and transport. I do have one source in Austria left to try so maybe there is a slim chance it will happen.

[AdmiralDonSnider]

How large drum, digger?

[Peret]

When I wor a lad* According to an old price list I have here, when saltpeter cost sixpence a pound, magnesium cost seven shillings an ounce. So it's quite cheap today, really, when you consider that 6d in those days was worth 1/40th of a gold sovereign, which at current value (220 UK Pounds) means KNO3 equivalent price would be L5.50 a pound and magnesium would be L82.50 an ounce (L1,320 a pound).

More prices from 1875: Realgar and Orpiment, 1/- pound; Calomel, 6/- pound; Gupowder, 9d pound. Paris Green isn't listed, nor is aluminium, which was worth more than its weight in gold in 1875.

(* 'N you try 'n tell young people of today that, they won't believe you.)

[FlashPoint]

I'm pretty sure you won't want HCB even if you can get it, as a controlled pollutant any release needs to be reported to the Environment Agency.

[MDH]

Well, if anyone knows anybody in agriculture the next best thing we can do is ask around for pentachlorophenate. As far as I am aware it is not banned

Edited by MDH, 01 February 2011 - 10:26 PM.

[Potassium chlorate]

Like I mentioned in another thread, I substituted HCB for HCE in Chinese Blue#1 with a good result. HCB is easy to get hold of in Scandinavia and continental Europe, yet. It's crystalline, so you must mill it, and even dry stars smell a bit of it, but if you don't store them too long, that shouldn't be much of a problem.