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[FrankRizzo]

Yeah, but without the holes punched on the edge. They're called file folders in the U.S., though I believe you folks use the term Railex folders.

You want the larger format ones with a single tab for less waste (you have to cut off the tabs to make a nice rectangle sheet).

My way is simple but effective:

I am using kraft paper, 50/50 good wood-/ cheap wallpaperglue and steel/alu rods for the work.

Roll them up, kutting while still moist on the steelroller (much easier to cut), slide them off and let them dry om the aluroller.
The space betewwn each tube also seems to speed up drying, since a bit of moisture escapes there.

I will try "Manilla folder", but a bit unsure of what it actually is.
Are we talking about the thick paper used to divide papers in a "ring portefoil"?

[aquarius]

Thank you, I have probably found what the equalent in my own homecountry.

Are we taking about this product or this one? They come quite cheap in bulk.

[phildunford]

not sure if this is the place to mention it, but I now use 'lining paper' (plain wallpaper) for nearly all my cases. Its strong, you can get it in various thicknesses and it's cheap as chips!

You can get it in all DIY superstores from grade 400 (thin) to grade 1000 (thick)

[aquarius]

Hmm, not a bad idea. Are you using wallpaper and wallpaperglue, thats it?

And if possible, could you post a close-up picture of the paper?

[phildunford]

I use PVA, as it dries much quicker than wallpaper paste.

[FrankRizzo]

You want the first one that you linked to. The second one might work too, but you'd have to do a lot of cutting to get rid of that left edge with the holes.

Ours look a bit different, but I'm sure it's the same material.

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Thank you, I have probably found what the equalent in my own homecountry.

Are we taking about this product or this one? They come quite cheap in bulk.

[Mumbles]

Another thing to think about is card stock. It is the stuff greeting cards and what not are made from. They come in normal sized sheets, A4 I think. Standard computer paper size. I think I've also seen it in larger sheets. It is approximatly the same thickness as manilla folders. I do believe about 100lb in US measurement. I don't know the metric equivalent off the top of my head, sorry. 5x whatever computer paper thickness is.

[aquarius]

Right, thank you lads.

As for Mumbles last post; it is only size or thickness we want, but not also the special paper?
Or else we could use thin cardboard, I know som articles use the therm cardboard.

[EnigmaticBiker]

not sure if this is the place to mention it, but I now use 'lining paper' (plain wallpaper) for nearly all my cases. Its strong, you can get it in various thicknesses and it's cheap as chips!

Good idea!
I'll try it when I run out of Kraft.

The Manilla folders are a good one too, the original Manila hemp fibre is derived from banana leaves and one of the toughest fibres.

Two easy methods for checking whether paper will be strong as a casing:-
How strong is it when wet?
Does the wet paper stay as a sheet when crumpled?
Tear it and check the length of the fibres, the longer the better.

[Jerronimo]

What paperweight are we looking at?
I looked on the net and it seems there's alot of difference in quality.
110gr/m2, 180gr/m2, 190gr/m2 all sold as filefolder.

[Mumbles]

It's both thickness and quality. I agree than manilla folders are very hard and strong. The cardstock tubes I've rolled I've noticed very little difference though, mainly in hardness of final tubes. I don't make salutes or rockets really at this point so I dont have that to compare. I do use manilla for fountain tubes and such. Mostly because its longer than card stock and allows thicker tubes without multiple strips, which I feel lowers the integrity of the tube.

[burningbush]

Another thing to think about is card stock. It is the stuff greeting cards and what not are made from. They come in normal sized sheets, A4 I think. Standard computer paper size. I think I've also seen it in larger sheets. It is approximatly the same thickness as manilla folders. I do believe about 100lb in US measurement. I don't know the metric equivalent off the top of my head, sorry. 5x whatever computer paper thickness is.

One more if you care to try, I use heavy construction paper normally 65#is its rating.
I use white glue then dip in Minwax woodhardner. Ive made a few tubes this way and they work very well, better then more turns or thicker walls . The wall thickness is only 1mm + .
Ive used epoxy before but it is to brittle, it creates small sharp shards of glue . Too danerous!
but the woodhardner works and doesnt create the hazards. give it a try you wont be sorry.
I think I got this info from skylighter's newsletter some time ago now.

Hope this helps

P.c