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#31 Pyro Harold

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 12:03 PM

I'm going to post the below formula on behalf of Seymour who made it up on the spot while round mine last summer. It really is the best blue formula around and I have tested the veline one, some of the ones of pyroguide and "pyro science" blue (which is better than others too but not quite as good as...)

Seymour's KP blue

KP – 58

Lactose – 15

Parlon – 9

CuO – 8

Red gum – 4

Sulphur – 3

Mgal – 3




I would like to try this formula out, when you say KP are you referring to Shimizu's formula? Can you just use Potassium Perchlorate on its own or will this affect the colour?

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:58 AM

I would like to try this formula out, when you say KP are you referring to Shimizu's formula? Can you just use Potassium Perchlorate on its own or will this affect the colour?



Yes, KP in formulas (unless stated) refers to Potassium Perchlorate. :)
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#33 Pyro Harold

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:56 AM

Yes, KP in formulas (unless stated) refers to Potassium Perchlorate. :)



Thanks for the reply portfire, but why KP? Why not PP or KClO4?

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 10:05 AM

Thanks for the reply portfire, but why KP? Why not PP or KClO4?



Not a problem. I believe It's ease of writing, and remember, the symbol for Potassium is K :D
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

Abbreviations that deviate from the element letters can and will cause confusion, some can be resolved by the context others not so easily resolved.
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#36 MDH

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 10:11 PM

Made about 40g of Seymour's blue formula for this halloween, hand rolled them into 1/4" pellets for bombettes and primed them with BP/al. Will get back to you all. Possibly with video if the weather permits this year...

#37 Pyro Harold

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 10:41 AM

Made about 40g of Seymour's blue formula for this halloween, hand rolled them into 1/4" pellets for bombettes and primed them with BP/al. Will get back to you all. Possibly with video if the weather permits this year...



Cant wait!

#38 Pyro Harold

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 06:04 AM

Not a problem. I believe It's ease of writing, and remember, the symbol for Potassium is K :D


The main reason I was confused was because KP also refers to a formula by Takeo Shimizu http://www.pyroguide...ex.php?title=KP

#39 Pyro Harold

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 12:05 PM

Made about 40g of Seymour's blue formula for this halloween, hand rolled them into 1/4" pellets for bombettes and primed them with BP/al. Will get back to you all. Possibly with video if the weather permits this year...



Did you get a chance to fire these?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

I mixed a bit of this up and tried it gently pressed into a lance tube. The colour was good for a KClO4 blue, though not as good as an AP oxidised mix as you might expect. Previous experience make me suspect it would work a bit better as a smallish star.
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#41 Pyro Harold

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:08 AM

I mixed a bit of this up and tried it gently pressed into a lance tube. The colour was good for a KClO4 blue, though not as good as an AP oxidised mix as you might expect. Previous experience make me suspect it would work a bit better as a smallish star.



Thanks for the info pyrotrev!

#42 Jerronimo

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:05 PM

For very good colour, ignition and big flame envelope try this one:

KClO3 60
Lactose 20
Parlon 10
CuO(black) 10

Bind with acetone.
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