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#1 phildunford

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:39 AM

That got your attention didn't it...

 

The i's need dotting and the t's crossing but Wayne announced at yesterdays AGM that by September a document written by UKPS (similar to an ACOP) will be published by the HSE under new explosives legislation, This will outline what can be done. The limits are still 100g, but it opens up a whole world of possibilities.

 

This is probably the most important thing that has happened in the history of the UKPS and it's all down to Wayne - brilliant work!

 

Hopefully Wayne will find time to post here and clarify, but I just wanted to start the ball rolling.


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#2 Arthur Brown

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:05 PM

This, combined with the position offered by the Home Office Representative at the AGM that home pyrotechnic experimentation is a legitimate  hobby, tempered by the incoming requirement for poisons and explosive precursors to be purchasable only by licence holders, Shows just how much work has been put in by the past and remaining committee members, for which I thank you sincerely. 

 

We now have the opportunity to show that we are as responsible as we say, and do and publish (maybe here) lawfully done hobby pyrotechnics. 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:49 PM

This is excellent news and well done to all of those that have put in lots of hard work. I have a question regarding Arthurs post. Imagine the licence to purchase came in tomorrow and the UK hobbyist already has chemicals purchased before the licence date. Will there be a requirement to buy a licence from day one to hold already purchased chemicals or will it only be needed to buy anew and replenish stocks?


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:55 PM

Nope there is apparently going to be a 16-18 months grace period to use your stocks or get a licence at the end of the period.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:58 PM

One word of caution though. The Poisons/EP legislation has not got all the way through the legislation mill yet. But early indications are that this is the way it will go according to the man.


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#6 fruitfulsteve

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:08 PM

Sort ov on subject

 

Is flash going to be 'banned' even in <100g quantity's ? 


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#7 phildunford

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:44 PM

As I understood it flash will need an 'acquire & keep' but then you could acquire it by making it - same as BP.

 

Can anyone confirm this?


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:57 PM

Flash is expected to be on the list of COER substances whatever it's called by then.

 

The position on flash in articles -genie flashes, salutes, confetti bombs is currently not specified.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:51 PM

Thanks for the reply digger. Looks like I would have to have a massive experimental time for 18 months as I have a few chems and rarely use them owing to time constraints. Oh well, somebody has to do it. :)


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#10 phildunford

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

Thanks for the reply digger. Looks like I would have to have a massive experimental time for 18 months as I have a few chems and rarely use them owing to time constraints. Oh well, somebody has to do it. :)

Of course this only applies to the specific poisons and explosive pre-cursors listed. Many of our materials will not be affected by this legislation. eg sulphur, charcoal, metal powders and many salts - to name but a few....


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 08:58 AM

Splendid news. I am unlikely to have much, if anything on that list.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:20 PM

Hi All,

 

Yes, 2014 is "the" year!  :)

 

There's lots to say, but in a nutshell, experimental pyrotechnics manufacture has a future in the UK!  There will be a good practise guidance document publish by the UKPS/HSE and this will be on general release in the coming months.  This document will spell out how you can adere to the ER2014 regulations and layout any license requirements.  Its will answer almost all the questions you now have running around in your mind.

 

I've attached my presentation from the AGM that may give a little more information regarding timings etc.

 

In the meantime, revel in the thought that experimental pyro is something you can now be proud of and nothing to hide!

 

Cheers,

 

Wayne.

 

PS.  All the replies to questions above are quite correct.

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#13 martyn

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:56 PM

Thanks Wayne. And any others involved.

I had an email from Danny today, he says hello to everyone and will be back on the forum when time allows.



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:24 PM

What an incredible achievement.

Massive kudos to you all.

 

If I hadn't just read this thread there's no way I would have believed it.

 

Regards, Chris.



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:04 PM

this a great achievement wayne !!

 

well done

 

look forward to reading the good practice documentation proposed

 

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