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#16 Pyromaster2003

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 03:51 PM

is there a name for that composition?

#17 Richard H

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 03:58 PM

The name Armstrong rings a bell. DO NOT touch this stuff, it really is incredibly nasty and sensitive to shock and friction. It is used in amorces and plastic toy caps.

(Or at least similar compositions are).

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:07 PM

once again i would like to echo what richard has said please dont try making that stuff it will do you great harm.it could kill you no problem.i have seen one person make it and i can tell you its very nasty stuff. dont do it

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:08 PM

i aint touching that stuff anyway, just curious what it was called incase id heard of it. i would imagine that this stuff has no where near the power of charcoal and sawdust (commonly known as 'Dynamite' )hehe

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[Edited on 27-5-2003 by Pyromaster2003]

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:13 PM

just for a rough idea, how much damage would 10 ounces of this mixture do if detonated 2 feet underground?is this stuff say 5 times more powerful than flash or what?

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:15 PM

charcoal and sawdust won't do jack together without being nitrated. Dynamite, by the way, is a mixture of nitro-cellulose, sawdust and possibly glycerine, which is mixed with acid.

Phosporous and chlorate is a highly sensitive and dangerous mix, I read someone lacerated their thigh somewhere

#22 blasterbert

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:16 PM

pyromaster: i think im rite in saying it is sim 2 the stuff they put in detonators.get hold of a xmas cracker carefully take out the snap light it and watch it go bang.times that by 2oo.a lot of power

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:18 PM

hehe - to what Pan Matser said.

ok, thanks for that information. pretty powerful stuff then!:o

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:47 PM

I thought dynamite was nitroglycerin asorbed into pourous clay(kaolite), the first (relatively) safe to use high explosive coutesy of Alfred Nobel. (maybe I'm wrong?)

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 04:53 PM

hehe, lets stop now, we getting people confused;)

#26 Richard H

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:09 PM

Originally posted by fusion121
I thought dynamite was nitroglycerin asorbed into pourous clay(kaolite), the first (relatively) safe to use high explosive coutesy of Alfred Nobel. (maybe I'm wrong?)


You are correct. Dynamite is nitroglycerine absorbed into a pourous material such as kieselguhr. Sawdust was only used initially by Nobel until he found that kieselguhr had a much greater absorbing abillity.

#27 Richard H

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:10 PM

Originally posted by PanMaster
charcoal and sawdust won't do jack together without being nitrated. 


It was a joke ;)

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:30 PM

Out of interest you wouldn't know the chemical composition of kieselguhr would you? It'd be interesting to see what the inter-atomic forces that allow something to absorb a nitrated benzene ring...hydrogen bonding I'm assuming.

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:35 PM

I'm afraid I don't have a clue, but it is made from the natural crushed remains of sea creatures, and so the material which results must be very pourous, and I expect there is plenty of room for the benzene ring.

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 06:46 PM

whops my fault...glycerines actually penta-1,3,5-triol so theres no bezene ring...that makes a lot more sense in terms of the absorbtion, I was getting confused with phenol.




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