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#16 Sparks

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:30 AM

But fuse isn't classed as an explosive, is it?

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 12:13 PM

Thats what I'm confused about - and this law, is it to stop people storing? and if so, wouldnt a COER be sufficent? if so I'm sure we could find somebody that would do it for us, I know I might.

And btw, the cost of the container would be nothing if we had 10+ people, less than 30 maybe 20.

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 02:20 PM

My limited experience with importing, is that if enough people get together it is far cheaper than buying here, even if you add the shipping costs. The problem i had though, when i recently imported some perc. was that i funded the whole thing and when i had the stuff people dropped out and i got stuck with it. So in the unlikely event of someone arranging this, my advice is...........get the money up front! :)

If enough people want to do this i can arrange the importation. I have a friend who regularly brings in chemicals from china, and i can probably bring it in through him. I also have a contact in china who makes green visco, thats how i know it costs less than 1p a metre. I'll try and get a quote and see exactly how much we are talking about, including the cost of shipping etc. then see how much real interest there is. Watch this space


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 03:40 PM

Fuse, fireworks, black powder, smokeless powder etc are all defined as 'explosives'. COER is only concerned with control of supply, not storage.

Edited by Richard H, 29 November 2005 - 03:43 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 05:27 PM

Ok, i contacted my contact in China and this is what he sent me




Safety Fuse Price List

Date: 29 Nov, 2005
item no. Description Diameter (mm) unit price (USD/meter) Burnig time
LD003 Green Safety Fuse 1.8mm $0.013/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD004 Green Safety Fuse 2.0mm $0.015/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD005 Green Safety Fuse 2.2mm $0.017/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD006 Green Safety Fuse 2.5mm $0.024/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD007 Green Safety Fuse 3.0mm $0.032/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD008 Green Safety Fuse 3.2mm $0.035/m 70 - 120 seconds/meter
LD009 Green Safety Fuse(fast burning) 2.5mm $0.024/m 10 - 16 seconds/meter

Remark: We also make other specification fuse according to customer's requirement.
Cartons Size: 55x40x28cm (0.062m3) pack: 20x200 meters


You can see, that the thinnest fuse is only 1.3cents.........less than 1p per metre. I have had samples from this guy and the quality is very high. I will look into this further, see what the minimum order value is etc. and find out if my friend can bring it over for us and of cousre how much it'll all cost. If we can pull this off, we can all save money and have plenty of fuse!!

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 06:03 PM

Yup, it would certainly be good, what are the chances he'll bring it over for us then?
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 06:53 PM

i can only ask! I'll be seeing him in the next few days. i'll keep you posted. That isnt the main problem tho.....the minimum order value is also a big problem. If we have to order something like ?5000 worth to get those prices its a non-starter. Quite honestly i cant see enough people clubbing together to get the price.

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 07:44 PM

Well, there is always the chance that it could be a lower limit than ?5000, if we can't get it from him, we can try the renting shipping space idea.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:06 PM

I was just using the ?5k as an example, it may well be less, probably is. But before we get too carried away, i need to know how much genuine interest there is in this. Everybody who is interested say 'aye'

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:20 PM

yar, i be interested in buying fuse and more fuse, maybe 1km of the stuff.

70 - 120 seconds/meter
is it normal for visco to have that much of difference in burn rate?
or is it different types of visco?

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:30 PM

He does different burn rates in each size, you have to specify exactly what you want, and he'll manufacture it for you.

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:51 PM

Ive just got some more info......to fill a small container (20ft) we would need to buy 450 boxes, each containing 2 x200metre rolls, by my calculations that would be 180Km's (180,000metres) of visco. If we use the thinnest visco price that would mean 180,000 x .75p = ?1350.00 at todays exchange rate (1.7 dollars to the pound). To that we would need to add the container cost, someone mentioned ?500, and VAT......that brings the total to ?2086 for 180,000metres = 1.16pence per metre. So unless ive missed something, i challenge anyone to tell me where i can buy visco here in the U.K. at anywhere near that price.

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:58 PM

That's very good. Can they do fast fuse too?

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:59 PM

Ive just got some more info......to fill a small container (20ft) we would need to buy 450 boxes, each containing 2 x200metre rolls,


Cartons Size: 55x40x28cm (0.062m3) pack: 20x200 meters


isn't it 20X200meters per pack?

not 2X 200m rolls?


so we'd need to buy 1800km of fuse, enough to go from john o groats to lands end and back!

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:03 PM

That's very good. Can they do fast fuse too?

Green Safety Fuse(fast burning) 2.5mm $0.024/m 10 - 16 seconds/meter

That's pretty fast!




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