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#16 barra69

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 08:21 PM

Ritual33 I think the best thing for flame protection would be cotton gloves. They protect the skin from flash, do not burn but smolder and offer enough touch sensitivety. Think of the flash hoods the Royal Navy use. If you try Nomex,(the stuff they make firefighters uniforms out of) it is thick and cumbersome. If you get an explosion there is not much that can protect you apart from luck.

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 08:23 PM

Yep, thats the point. any protection is better than no protection at all. if i had gloves on, cotton gloves for example, nothing would have happened to my hand.

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 09:13 PM

Firstly, I would just like to say sorry for your accident. It just goes to show, it can happen to anyone.

The other thing that is possible is some sort of static electricity. Based on looking at the weather of some german cities, I don't know that this would be an issue. There is 90+% humidity. Static electricity is what caused my friend's accident about 2 years ago. At least that is what we believe. He wasn't as lucky as you though. He was holding the case, and it exploded instead of just burning. Lets just say the functionality of both hands is no longer equal.

One thing to keep in mind about cotton is that it can create static electricity on various things. On nylon rammers specifically, but probably steel as well. I would go with leather welding gloves if I had to pick something. Cotton is prefered by many clothes as when it burns it doesn't melt to your skin. Depending on the type of glove, It doesn't provide a heck of a lot of heat protection. They would protect you from the burning particles, but the woosh of hot air would still have probably harmed you if you didn't have correct gloves. Then again, there are some cotton gloves that are meant to protect from heat for short periods of time, such as oven mitts. Basically what I mean to say is if you do get cotton gloves, make sure they are designed for heat resistance. I would not feel comfortable using cotton winter mittens, or cotton yard work gloves or something like that.

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 09:18 PM

Kevlar and Asbestos are good materials for fires etc. Kevlar is the easier to source one of the two, it is also resistant to sharps; I have blunted a few Stanley blades with my Kevlar gloves. Cotton is better than any plastics, as it will not melt and so your skin in; however it does burn and is not a very good insulator of heat; in fact it is quite conductive compared to Kevlar and Asbestos.

Nomex is very nice stuff, its similar to Kevlar but far superior as a heat/flame resistant material. Quite expensive though! Does anyone know where you can get light duty gloves made of Nomex without paying through the nose?

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 09:49 PM

Check ebay. They can be had for fairly cheap compared to other places. You should be able to pick up a pair for $5 to $10.

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 04:49 AM

Checked eBay... Anyone know anything about welders gloves? Of course the gloves we need have to be able to work with, not extremely stiff.

These carbtex gloves seem very nice:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 05:06 AM

These should be good also, but you sacrifice comfort for extra protection.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:26 AM

i took three photos of my hand.

http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand1.jpg
http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand2.jpg
http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand3.jpg

so, you really don?t want that to occur to your hand i think :D

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#24 Pretty green flames

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:33 AM

Ouch, it brings back bad memories.
I had something similar happen to my hand when some C6 IIRC went up in the M&P, nasty stuff.

Any idea how long i will take to heal completely.

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:39 AM

Should take about 10days to two weeks. it does hurt atm as the vesicle pulls all the skin to the inner of my hand. this stretching effect really is not very comfortable.

but if you open the vesicle, infections will occur so i do not open it.

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:55 AM

Should take about 10days to two weeks. it does hurt atm as the vesicle pulls all the skin to the inner of my hand. this stretching effect really is not very comfortable.

but if you open the vesicle, infections will occur so i do not open it.


Yes, i know that feeling. When this happened to me they popped the vesicle after 2days to let the liquid out and then they bandaged it.

Did you go to the hospital or just your friend, the doctor?

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 10:03 AM

I was not in the hospital with it. simply because here in germany you will get into serious trouble if they get to know what you really did.

of course, if there is no other opportunity left i?ll go to the hospital with it.

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 12:04 PM

i took three photos of my hand.

http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand1.jpg
http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand2.jpg
http://kkpaul.rpgames.de/hand3.jpg

so, you really don?t want that to occur to your hand i think :D



ooogh nasty, bet that stings a bit. On the bright side, it will heal though in not too much time, at least its not infected or the skin burned off. You got off lucky!

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 12:17 PM

Paul, sorry to hear about the misfortune. Hope you make a speedy recovery and are back in the game soon. I believe leather gloves, the rough, cheap welders / woodcutters type are the best, as they do not generate static, will not melt, smoulder etc, but they are a bit cumbersome.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 01:51 PM

Eek! Scary. Get well soon.




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